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Fascism and Communism by Balddog4 Fascism and Communism by Balddog4
Here's another deviation for you guys with very little brain cells to bash. Because if you guys can't tell that both facsism and communism belong on the same side of the spectrum, then you are missing something very important. Now for those who don't know what I'm talking about I'll tell you.

When you take an economical course in collage, they talk about the spectrum. On the left side is communism, and on the right side is Fascism, and in the middle is democracy. Now this is what they, and when I mean they I mean the "professors," are going to tell you that Communism and Fascism are completely different from each other.

The truth is that they are not. They are the same because they both want complete controll with the economy.

Communism = everyone is equal (within the system [as long as they fit the requirements]) but some are more equal than others

Fascism = everyone is equal (within the system [as long as they are aryan and fit the requirements]) but some are more equal than others.

The Xenophobia and race orientation of Nazi Germany and other fascist countries were more obvious because they modeled their policies on that of their idol and hero, Adolf Hitler who was a particular brand of communist dictator. Just because the dictator is different, it doesn't mean that the basis of the system is different. Also, Communist Russia didn't have a Goebbels.

Communist Russia also had their own xenophobia although the allies didn't make a big deal of it in the media since their enemy was Fascism and Russia was their ally. Stalin was known to have slaughtered millions of Jews within his own regime and Russians even today are very race orientated and biased.

If you looked carefully you would see that the so-called big differences between the two are only at face value and that there really aren't any differences at all.


If you don't beleive me then look it up. Beacause I doubt that most of you, if not all, who replies to this even visited a Communist controll economy. I haven't but unlike some of you guys I take time to listen and to do research. If you ever talk to someone who once lived in a Communist economy from Cuba, Vietnam or North Korea, they are going to tell you that it's not an economy to have. My sister had a teacher who family was from Vietnam and he told the class on how poor they all were. He also told the class on how he had to stole a chicken to feed his family. And the thing about living in a Communist country is that if the government finds out, they will kill you. My sister teacher family eventually left Vietnam and he told the class that he is never going back to vietnam ever.

So once more I'm going to tell you to do research. Most of you people who disagree with me and try to tell me "facts" never even told me that what they are saying is legit. Do your research.
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GoodThinker Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Fascism isn't Nazim, Nazism is fascism.
Also, there are differences between Communism and fascism. Communism is an economic and political system which often involves fascism. Fascism is a dictatorship. In other words, Communism is fascism and other stuff.
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61021376 Featured By Owner May 26, 2015
1) fascism =/= nazism
2) there's a difference anyway. The main common trait between nazism and fascism is mongering wars in order to expend territories and commit slaughters (the holocaust started during WW2) while communist massacres and genocides all took place during peacetime. In some cases, like the Moscow trials and the red Khmer government, war even put an end to massacre.
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Hettman Featured By Owner May 11, 2015
Ya! I can see that, look at them today, Fascist Kremlinstan's Russia's Army, FSB/GRU, special OP's are Thieving/Killing/beating/blowing up Ukrainians in the Donbass/Crimea like a bunch Neanderthal neo-Nazi wanabe's that they truly are!

And let's see here they been destroying the lives of Roma's, Jews, Ukrainians, Crimean Tatars, and Russian Ukrainians in the Donbass/Crimea! So yeah that's pretty much what Shugezburger A.K.A. Hitler and his fellow Nazi's did to them all over Europe! My! My! Look's like my Social Studies Teacher were correct in using the bent ideological spectrum for analysis of Communism/Fascism! They are twin demons! Different ideological approach but the same end!

Too bad there are so many of these Tards/A**holes to live/deal with in this world to this very day! Despite the knowledge is public that they were epic fails and still are!:facepalm:
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RedSeptemberJulia Featured By Owner May 2, 2015
There is a huge difference between those who started the holocaust and those who ended it....
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MrScientister Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2015  New Deviant Professional Digital Artist
The author of this nonsense is just ignorant.

Dude, you know that communism is a utopian society in which no need to work, and where there are no chiefs? Communism was not invented in the USSR! Communism was invented by the English writer Thomas More, and then it was perfected by the French.

The Soviet Communists had built a totalitarian society, but they did not build communism! And they haven't burned other people in ovens like Hitler. Therefore, to equate communism and fascism can only uneducated idiot.

Go back to school, child!
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61021376 Featured By Owner May 26, 2015
That's because communism doesnt work:iconpervieplz:
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Sigwarf Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
National-Socialism was created as a reaction to Communism comming in Germany, almost totally directed by jews.
6h30 Documentary on World War II,
The Greatest Story Never Told.
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MrScientister Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2015  New Deviant Professional Digital Artist
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Erotiklove Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
I am neither a Communist nor a Fascist but some people seriously need to learn that not all Communism is Stalinism and not all Fascism is Nazism. Look into the Communist Manafesto and Mein Kampf. Marxism is a form of Communism and is completely different from Stalinism. Learn more.
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2015
The thing is conservatives like this guy who posted this don't give a shit and don't care about what they are. Either that or they are just that dumb to say these political ideologies are the same.
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SteamRailwayCompany Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Thank you. 
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JewMarxFaggotCunt Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2015
Eat my fucking semen faggot.
I fucking hate jews and fucking backs.
nigger
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ThatdirtyCommie Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2015
You're fucking retarded
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1234fireball Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2015
Comrade There are different kinds of communism you are aware of this (Stalinists and Trotskyists) and have your read up on the. Manifesto and Mein Kampf I doubt you have comrade. And as of modern communism (Which I think is Stalinist) is very ruthless I have to admit but it's like saying all Christians belieieve in the same thing!
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allman08 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2014
The one on the left murdered people because they wheren't white christians. The one on the right allowed everyone to have a job, and equal rights.
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Roccodog1 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2014
And was responsible for about 12 million deahts. Of his own people. NEITHER one is better.
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MrScientister Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2015  New Deviant Professional Digital Artist
Proof? Your granny?
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Sigwarf Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Communism total of 100 millions deaths.
Lenin, who was jewish, killed almost 20 millions christians, because they were christians.
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MrScientister Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2015  New Deviant Professional Digital Artist
Proof? Your drunk neighbor?
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allman08 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2014
You would be suprised at what you might find after thinking for a long time. I mean a REALLY long time. I have no life, so i recommend you not to do it.
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Roccodog1 Featured By Owner Edited Dec 9, 2014
Of course! It all makes sense now! Thank you!

Oh and PS: Remind to stop posting on political art work. It will only lead to pain und suffering
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allman08 Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2014
No prob.
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PeteSeeger Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2014  Student Writer
While that is true in regards to their methods of gaining and maintaining power, the manner in which the state is otherwise run is quite different.
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Cochegara Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014
Communism is the end of wars within a single biological specie by unification of all states in one, it's not not important which state will became Bismark of planet scale - USA or USSR.

Fascism it's same corporativism as cancervatism: fascists consecrate bureaucrats to the master race, when cancervatives consecrate clerks of private sector to the master race - and it's nothing about nationalism.
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waffenschmidt Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2014
Calling two different political ideologies that considered each other mortal enemies, both before the short-lived nonagression pact was signed and again after it was broken, the same thing dosen't make any sense. 
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jj2518 Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2014
as a person who has lived in communist Czechoslovakia i can tell you that are vastly different.
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EdenianPrince Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014
They are way different. 
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OmicronPhi Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Fascism doesn't have an economic system and full communism is stateless. You fail, sir.
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KaiserOfChaos Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2014  Student General Artist
The one thing to not forget is that Fascism is on the far right-wing side of the political spectrum whereas communism is radical left-wing, with Paternal Autocracy in the middle
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vlauwer1 Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You just make me laugh with your stupid bullshit story. :') Only the idea of comparing communism with fascism, it just makes me laugh.
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MyLittleTripod Featured By Owner May 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Actually you are confusing State Socialism with Communism. Since the creator of Communism was Karl Marx, I would assume that the only way to know Communism would be to read up on his book the Communist Manifesto. Basically Karl Marx stated the Communist Society as being a "Stateless, Classless, Moneyless Society" where the working class collectively owned the means of production. Quite different from the authoritarian empires of Stalin and Hitler. 

The thing about these Communist nations (U.S.S.R., Cuba,China etc.) was that the revolutionaries in those countries tried to achieve Communism by over throwing the previous governments and seizing state power, assuming "that they had seized power unwillingly  and for a limited time. and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal" (1984). After which they did, they assumed a one-party dictatorial state, thus creating a power gap, because as 1984 states: "No one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it". And in my opinion it's more fair to blame the Authoritarian factions within the ideal of Communism/Marxism or even Socialism (like Leninism,Stalinism,Authoritarian Socialism.etc) than to blame the whole ideology itself.
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TheDolphinHater Featured By Owner May 28, 2014
Fascism is better than communism.
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MrScientister Featured By Owner Edited Apr 30, 2015  New Deviant Professional Digital Artist
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MissMuffinTop Featured By Owner May 25, 2014   Writer
They're both Authoritarian worldviews/ideologies/systems, the difference is whether Business is the State (Fascism) or whether the State is the Business (Communism). They both create Kleptocratic regimes, but the difference seems to be whether you scapegoat undesirables or non-conformity. There isn't much of a difference, but they're not the same thing, otherwise there wouldn't be two terms. 

The only inherent differences are economics. Yes, Business being the State and the State being business aren't the same thing. A fascist government bends over for a corporate interest, no questions asked. A communist government bends business over for their interests, no questions asked. It's extreme excesses of authority either way, but different kinds of (horrible) people are in charge. So they're not the same thing, they're mirrored opposites with an alarming amount of common ground. 

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Also, your commentary on fascism was...very light? Like, you didn't criticize it much at all, you mostly just said things about commies, and seem to be (correct me if I'm wrong) tacitly endorsing fascism by pointing out the foibles of communism without criticizing fascists much at all. 

Here's a chart, and a quiz from the same peeps, for good measure; a second axis on the political spectrum helps weed out an alarming amount of the bullshit (allowing to discern between people who agree on economics but not personal freedoms, a la the differences between Rand Paul and Peter King), so there. :3

Anyways, was fun to reply to, even if I found some of the followup on your premise lacking depth. 
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scarecrow1969 Featured By Owner May 19, 2014
Communists have bigger mustaches.
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Razielus91 Featured By Owner May 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I see that people still can't see any difference between Italian Fascism and German National Socialism
But it's true - National Socialism and Stalinism are similar in many ways
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MrScientister Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2015  New Deviant Professional Digital Artist
All cars have wheels. The Porsche has wheels. All cars - Porsche?
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Razielus91 Featured By Owner May 5, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I wrote about similarities - not being identical the same.
Still according to this topic everything depends on what can you describe as Porsche
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soulessone12 Featured By Owner May 13, 2014
Fun fact: during the second world war the USA and the UK were quite happy watching the USSR and Nazi Germany tear at each other throats (one of the reasons D-Day happen in 1944 and not 1943) for obvious reasons
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menapia Featured By Owner May 13, 2014
they have one thing in common - Power, whenever any group of rulers have unlimited power over their fellow human beings unchecked by law, morality or justice people suffer, the declared ideology of the state/party can be just a flag of convenience
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ostendfaxpest Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2014
Zwischen den beiden gibt es keinen Unterschied? Sorry, das kann so nicht stehenbleiben. Geschichte ohne zu differenzieren wird zur Propagandaveranstaltung.
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Caranaar Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2014
Communism/=/USSR.
Such mistakes leave me cold.
Bro...learn what communism says about the people and the classes, and learn what fascism says about whom should be citizen and about the classes in a fascist republic.Also, Fascism is not National Socialism.
The far right is made up of: Fascism, Legionarism, National Socialism, Falangism, etc...
The far left is made up of: Trotskyism, Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Korean Communism, Titoism, etc....
The USSR you are talking about is the Stalinist one.In USSR during Lenin homosexual marriage was allowed.HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE.
In all far right ideologies homosexuality is seen as wrong because it damages the population of the ethnic state.
Yes, yes, I can totally see how they are the same thing.
Communism/=/USSR
Fascism/=/National Socialism
Communism: everyone is equal, no matter the origins.
Fascist Ideology: Only a pure <insert ethnicity> can be a citizen.
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insomniaplague Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
...What? :XD: I guess we can boil down anything to the "principles" and equate them. This is just about saying that since horses and cars both are transportation, they're the same. :lmao: But, whatever, it's your opinion, and you're entitled to it, no matter how silly one of us make think it is. 
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frankteller Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2014
I guess that is why communists and capitalists joined forces against Fransisco Franco and Hitler's first target for extermination was the communists.
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KGB-101 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
There is only one true form of Communism, that is Marxism. Marxism is not Nazism. I can understand why you think other forms of Communism are Nazism, but you must remember, there is more than one type of Communism, as I said before, the true for is Marxism. The closest things Communism and Nazism have in common is either Socialism (Some people refer to Nazism as "Nation-Socialism"), or Stalinism.  
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DAisrunbybigots Featured By Owner May 6, 2014
Both offer Totalitarian Oppression.
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Herr-Crouch Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Are you a retard?!
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OpinionsProfile Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2014
Of course there is a difference!  Stalin had a better mustache.


But in all seriousness there are differences its just that the end result was very similar. I.e. that the government became all powerful and started executing people who disagreed with it,
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Atamolos Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Obviously you don't know the definition of communism, so allow me to tell you the correct one:  

"Communism is a socio-economic theory that advocates for a classless, moneyless, stateless society."

Not, "everyone is equal (within the system [as long as they fit the requirements]) but some are more equal than others".
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Thoreson Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
7143 10201520387834636 1142638473 N by Thoreson  I am impressed with the amount of passion and vehemence you use to declare your opinion when you were not at the least bit educated on any of the terms you were using.  Emotion and opinion, like myths, superstition and religion; have no place in politics.  It is serious business.  People are effected.  The saying is incorrect.  Not everyone has a right to their opinion.  Everyone has a right to the INFORMED opinion.  Based on that, obviously you are doing it wrong.  Let me help you.

Both Italy's and Germany's rise of the extreem far right began with what the right always responds to.  Fear.  This time fear came in the form of the Red Scare, Communism.  Fear of a type of Economy.  To paint an economic method as an evil thing, or calling Math the devil...is ridiculous.  Just as they say capitalism starves orphans and makes slaves....extremists of any side are a real problem, when children over hear them and take them serious.

Nazism rose in direct response to Communism.  Read Marx, please.  They are opposites.  Everyone knows this.

They are opposite.   But since you and I both know your fan base is incapable of differentiating an ad homonym use of a political term, that is why they all blur for you.  Words have definitions.  We, the intellectuals, will not allow you to choose what they mean...because learning and thinking is so hard.
What of our conservafundy immigration fears, checkpoints and prison populations due to the same conservafear?  Surely if you turn down the Beck, Rush and Limbaugh...you can hear the hypocrisy.  Photo Related.
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