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The Military deserve EVERYONE'S respect. It doesn't matter what country you are in. If you don't respect your military for what they do to you, then you don't deserve to even be called a citizen. The Military is the most difficult job ever and it's under appreciated. And it sickens me to know that people don't like the military. Without the military, then a country will be defenceless from an attack. The military purpose is to protect their country even if it cost them their lives. I'm interested in joining the military, in fact it's because of World War 2 that inspired me to even consider to join the military in the first place.

I love World War 2. I love learning about it. I love everything about World War 2 so much that I sometimes wish I was born in that era to join the fight. Some of you guys may be thinking, "Why do you love World War 2? It was so horrible."

Don't tell me things I already know. I know World War 2 was horrible. The reason why I love World War 2, is the brave souls who gave their lives for what they believe in. I consider every fallen soldier in World War 2 a hero. And I want to be a hero, to someone. I want to save someone who is a complete stranger to me and have them ask "Why?" I'm joining the Military not for killing, but to save someone. Even if it's just one person I manage to save and died doing it. I'm joining the Military despite the reason that I may die. But if I do die, I'll know that it was my choice to give up my life for the sake of others. Which is one thing I desire above all others. If I manage to save one soul because I was there at that moment, then I'll be happy. Even if my life is taken at that moment.

That is why I respect the military so much. And that is why I know how important it is to give the military the respect they really deserve. And why I'm joining in the first place.


"A person who thinks so little of their country military doesn't deserve a country to call their own."-Balddog4 AKA Daniel Bird.
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PAPhilly Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014
Human history goes as follows: six thousand years, ten thousand wars, two hundred million heroes.
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Edimureno Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2014
Why should i respect a bunch of idiots fighting for the interests of some rich assholes?
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PAPhilly Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014
Because they're putting their lives on the line for you and I.
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DAisrunbybigots Featured By Owner May 5, 2014
Lay off the pot and save your brain.
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Master-of-the-Boot Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I have respect for the soldiers, the military itself I do not respect. The soldiers are the ones risking it for shit pay, but I do not respect the war hawks or the weapons makers looking to turn a profit from war. 

And frankly, I was much to traumatized by the jingoism of the Bush years to ever truly fall again for blind "patriotism" 

So yes I respect the soldiers, but the respect is not unconditional. 

And believe me, you don't want to be part of WW2. If you joined the Russian side, you'd be probably one of 25 million Soviet Citizens dead. If you were an American, you'd have to be in the thick of the most brutal fighting the states has ever taken part of. 

I believe that the best way to pay tribute to the soldiers of the armed forces is to see to it that they have decent job benefits and a chance for employment when their tenure is done. Far better than wearing a damn pin. 
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SgtSolarFlare Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I too respect the military to the point I shake the hand of every vetern and soldier I can, what pisses me off the most though is when the deaths of hundreds a day go unnoticed until memorial day then people have the nerve to say they respect those who paid the altimate price. I for one honor those dead every day I thank them all passed or injured for there service ... and you know what it fills me with so much joy when I walk up to an elderly man wereing a veterns hat and I thank him. His smile makes al right in the world and there is no feelig greater then thanking those who deserve so much more to all brave soldier of past preasent and future, all those who gave some then those who gave it all for th8s great country ... I thank you, no I salute you
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joeisbadass Featured By Owner Jun 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Amen to that.
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FreakieGeekie Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I despise people who disrespect members of the military, American or otherwise.
One must always remember that it is the politicians not the soldiers who start our wars.
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Warsie Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
And many politicians -were- soldiers themselves. Kim Il Sung -and- Syngman Rhee were insurgents against Japanese imperialism, when they engaged in border disputes which escalated to the Korean War.
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FreakieGeekie Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Again, politicians. Not all military personnel are that way.
Have you ever met anyone who has served in the military or are you merely regurgitating the things the mass media feeds you? My guess is you only know what the media feeds you.
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Warsie Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, I had an Uncle who served in the Vietnam theater and my Grandfather occupied Korea after WWII ended.
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FreakieGeekie Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
And that makes you an expert on all military personnel then?
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Warsie Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
no it doesn't
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Balddog4 Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2013
:clap: You got what I was trying to say. Of course there are people who believes that soldiers are the one's who cause ruckuses.
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FreakieGeekie Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Those people need slapped. In the face. Preferably with a shovel and I'd volunteer to do it.
I don't know why a soldier would want to start the ruckus. That means he/she might have to go into a hostile area and possibly die.
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SgtSolarFlare Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Its there duty to keep there country and loved ones safe. Wouldnt you risk your life if it meant you could save someone important to you?
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FreakieGeekie Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I never said it wasn't their duty (their, not there). I'm talking about the asshats who blame soldiers for our wars. They aren't the ones who started it, the politicians are.
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SgtSolarFlare Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
OOOOHHHH ok I get ya now. But I do agree
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FreakieGeekie Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:highfive: I would never hate on the military. My dad was in the Marines and my boyfriend was Army.
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Arashi-Kanashimi Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Interesting point of view, and I can see your point, especially in the case of World War 2. And, yes, soldiers deserve respect. It's the politics behind war most people stop respecting.
Unfortunately, today's military isn't saving too many people's lives. The war in the Middle East is probably still killing more people than it saves, and my conspiracy theorist side tells me it has nothing to do with terrorism anymore...
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QRScomplex Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013
Agreed, but let's not forget sailors, marines, airmen etc.

One of the big problems that exists amongst military support is the overwhelming, and heavily skewed emphasis on "soldiers." The branches of military function together like "cogs" in a machine. Take one of the cogs out, and the whole system becomes nonfunctional.

I deeply respect your passion but don't forget the ones who serve beside the soldier.
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Balddog4 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013
The families, of course. Also when I said "military" I was talking about all of the branches. Not just the army. I can't wait to serve side by side with them.
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QRScomplex Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013
True but the image is in reference to soldiers only. Just sayin'.

Good luck out there!
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mrddixon Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013
the military doesnt fight wars on behalf of its citizens. it fights them on behalf of polititians. read smedly butlers "war is a racket". dont join the military. its a scam.
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jerrydickerson85 Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
you sir are an idiot
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mrddixon Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2013
yer toes are dirty
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jerrydickerson85 Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
what the hell is that supposed to mean?
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Sheldon-clone Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013
Solodiers are underappreciated, they are an important part of a country and shouldn't be hated like the plague.
Personally i wouldn't want to join the millitary because, the mere thought of being a solodier terrifies me....I'm not a warrior, but a scientist.
I want to save lives too, but i'll do it with advancements in science instead :).



Good luck, dude :iconsaluteplz:
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Balddog4 Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2013
Thanks, and good luck on your road into science.
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Sheldon-clone Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
You welcome, and thank you :).
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DemonHound96 Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Im glad to see there are people out there who respect our troops, our corrupt government is using them like puppets so they can make a quit buck. My grandfather was a Vietnam vet and I had full respect for what he did. Respect!
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Balddog4 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013
My Grandpa Bird was a Vietnam vet too. He was in the Air force, even though I don't know what he did I respect him for it.
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The-Laughing-Rabbit Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm disapointed at your choice of words. Respect the individuals in the military who put their life on the line everyday. The military as an institution however, has taken less than respectable paths.

This is why so many military supporters are fans of WWII, because the war didn't have as much gray area, Hitler was a monster and had to be stopped, he was an enemy to almost everyone.

The conflict in the middle east, and Vietnam however, are complicated, there is a lot of grey area, it's difficult to tell if someone is an innocent, or a hostile, hell, even a lot of our friendlies turn out to be hostile, we're raining bombs down on towns and shooting civilians because we can't tell the difference, and all of this creates a viscious cycle. People join terrorist organizations to deal with the U.S. troops killing civilians confused for combatants which of course makes it more confusing.

I respect the troops, many are friends and family, and there are some who are dedicated comrades. However, the Department of Defense, I will be very critical of.
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MrAustin390 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013
I prefer George W. Bush's speech to Veterans of Foreign Wars National Convention, August 22, 2007 [link] shows that George W. Bush understands the lesson of Vietnam, where so many people in America do not:
"Finally, there's Vietnam. This is a complex and painful subject for many Americans. ... I'm going to limit myself to one argument that has particular significance today. Then as now, people argued the real problem was America's presence and that if we would just withdraw, the killing would end. ... As a matter of fact, many argued that if we pulled out there would be no consequences for the Vietnamese people. ... The world would learn just how costly these misimpressions would be. In Cambodia, the Khmer Rouge began a murderous rule in which hundreds of thousands of Cambodians died by starvation and torture and execution. In Vietnam, former allies of the United States and government workers and intellectuals and businessmen were sent off to prison camps, where tens of thousands perished. Hundreds of thousands more fled the country on rickety boats, many of them going to their graves in the South China Sea. ... Whatever your position is on that debate, one unmistakable legacy of Vietnam is that the price of America's withdrawal was paid by millions of innocent citizens whose agonies would add to our vocabulary new terms like "boat people," "re-education camps," and "killing fields.""
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The-Laughing-Rabbit Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The Speach is a bunch of BS, the U.S. government has never cared about the lives of forign people, if it had, we wouldn't have supported the bloody coup in Chili and the establishment of the dictator Pinochet. Also, we sort of cause a lot of that in the first place, such as French imerialism that started the Vietnam war, and the U.S. ignoring Ho Chi Mihn asking for aid back in 1918 (Ho Chi Mihn actually came to the U.S. first, long before the soviet union on talking about ending french colonialism in Vietnam, we ignored him, and everyone paid).
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MrAustin390 Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013
Tell me how it's a load of bullshit. Are you denying the millions of people killed in Re-Education camps, killing fields and those who drowned as boat people?
Chile under Pinochet caused the deaths of up to ten thousand people;
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Vietnam under the communists caused the deaths of at least one and a half million;
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And Chile's what catches your attention? Just like the many journalists in 1979 who were more interested in human rights abuses in Chile and South Korea than they were in Pol Pot's genocide of Cambodians.

Regardless of the American rejection of Ho Chi Minh's request for independence, do you think that justifies his crimes against the people?
He wanted independence, so he could become powerful, as demonstrated by his purges of anti-communist, anti French but pro-independence parties such as the Viet Quoc nationalist party, the Dai Viet party and other nationalist oppostion to leave him and his communist party as the sole anti-colonial force against the French.
After the French left, during the 1950s, Ho Chi Minh executed hundreds of thousands of innocent landowners in 'land reforms' to eliminate private ownership in public show trials, prohibited political opposition (made his state single party) and severely censored speech and press caused the exodus of up to a million people who fled to South Vietnam before the first U.S. advisors arrived.

You say that America "doesn't care" about human rights because of it supported Pinochet. Well they care about human rights more than a lot of countries for starters by allowing free speech, free press, free religion, free sexuality, which can be more than said for at least half of thw world, who don't even support the rights of their own people.
Would you also say the same thing for World War II, and declare the U.S. wasn't really fighting for freedom, because of it's alliance with the genocidal monster Stalin?
Pinochet's a really poor comparison to use with Ho Chi Minh by the way. He was a murderous dictator who should face justice, yes, but he reduced poverty, not increased it. He was good for Chile's economy, not bad. Why? Because although there was no political freedom, there was economic freedom, whereas Vietnam continued to become poor under Ho Chi Minh due to his agrarian Socialist reforms.
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The-Laughing-Rabbit Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
WWII and the support of Pinochet are apples and oranges. And no, Pinochet did not reduce poverty, those chigaco boy policies created massive levels of inflation and an unemployment rate averaging in at 20%. The climb in GDP between 1974, and 1980 was 1.5% per year, far less than the 2.3% growth per year seen in the 60s. Between 1974, and 1980, the total GDP growth for Chili was about 8%, versus the 40% rise in the rest of latin America. What did happen with those Neo-liberal policies was it opened up Chili for american business intrest. In summery, prison camps, mass exicutions, political prisoners, high unemployement, inflation, and stunted growth in the GDP, and the U.S. got a wonderful business oppertunity.

And, again, the only reason Ho Chi Minh called for support from the soviets and China was because the U.S. turned him down, he came to us first (about 20 years before asking the "communists"). Had we listened to him, and pressured france to let go of it's colony, and you know, actually cared about freedom of forign countries, then not only would there have not have been a war (excuse me "police action"), but Vietnam wouldn't have never taken the shitty "socialist" reforms from the soviets and Chinese, and with less resources that those two groups have access in southern asia and Indonesia, the cold war might have ended even earlier because the economic pressures would've been that much more on the Soviets. Instead, we ended up fighting for a french colony, and then have france bail on us.
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jerrydickerson85 Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
you are very knowledgable my friend
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MrAustin390 Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013
And somehow, that makes what Ho Chi Minh acceptable right?
I guess as long as Woodrow Wilson didn't have the nerve to pressure France just that one time, we can just keep blaming the U.S. for the next 50 years, instead of the tyrant, who you know, actually responsible for setting up a dictatorship, who's regime actually ordered the land reforms, who eliminated political opponents, who restricted free press?
It seems as if you're just trying to shift responsibility from the tyrant who's regime killed hundreds of thousands of people, over to the U.S. for something it did, like 20 years before any of it even started, like you're trying to treat Ho Chi Minh as some kind of child who doesn't need to take responsibility for his crimes, because it must be America's fault for ignoring him right?
He didn't just rely on China and the Soviet Union "only" because the U.S. rejected him, he did it because he was a communist, having traveled around and the world and studying communism in France, China & Russia, and eventually becoming a communist figure himself.

It's just like saying Hitler would've never gotten into power in Germany, had the UK and France never imposed the harsh Treaty of Versailles after World War I, which enabled Hitler to get into power.

As for Pinochet, despite your economic claims against him, it's still a better track record, than many other dictator's, who's policies weren't as successful. During 1972 the macroeconomic problems continued to mount. Inflation surpassed 200 percent, and the fiscal deficit surpassed 13 percent of GDP. Domestic credit to the public sector grew at almost 300 percent, and international reserves dipped below US$77 million. Real wages fell 25 percent in 1972, before Pinochet assumed power.
But while we can disagree whether his economic policies made Chile better or not, we can agree that he was a murderous thug who should've faced justice.
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The-Laughing-Rabbit Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It appears you missed the point. Had the U.S. concerned itself with freedom and democracy like we claim, instead of persuing an imperalist agenda (or rather france's imperialist agenda) we could have avoided war, and all of Ho Chi Minh's monstrocities.

Actually, the treaty of Versailles was also short sighted and unconcerned with the lives of forign citizens.

And, we helped Pinochet, we aided the coup leading to the deaths and torturing of tens of thousands of people, and continued to support his regime despite it's obvious affront to freedom and democracy. The U.S. made a pretty penny on it however, now that Chili was open for U.S. business intrests.

The military as an institution, doesn't exactly have a noble track record, and we should always question its actions on whether or not it is really securing freedom and democracy and defending our nation, or it's just furthering some imperalistic goal.

The people in the military however, my original point, are worthy of respect.
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MrAustin390 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Well, I'm really not sure why you keep mentioning America's lack of concern for Vietnam's independence. Sure enough, they should've petitioned for Vietnam independence after World War I, but as a factor in the Vietnam wars, it's not very important in comparison to subsequent events. Ho Chi Minh could've also been the one to avoid the violent path if he never became a Communist figure, or if he proclaimed an electoral democracy instead of a socialist republic in September 1945, but we'll just have to disagree given your insistence "if the U.S..... could've avoided war..... Ho Chi Minh's monstrocities."
Good to know that you're willing to agree that Ho Chi Minh committed monstrosities, which can be more than said for, nearly every person claiming to be "Socialist" or "Communist".


Regarding Pinochet, I'm completely aware that the U.S. did indeed offer support to him, and you're opposed to the fact that the U.S. supported him. I agree. This is "realpolitik" - supporting friendly dictators in pursuit of a "higher" goal. America and the west have a long and dishonourable history of this kind of thing. That is why I am a "neo" conservative rather than a "realist" conservative, because the because the defining feature of the Neo-Cons is that they just can't stand this kind of thing.

As for whether you can trust the military or not, while I can't say I agree with your scepticism (I was in favour of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq for example), that doesn't really as important, if you can respect the people serving in the military.
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Balddog4 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013
The thing about Vietnam is that America was pulled in because of the treaty with France. France wanted to keep a hold on Vietnam but they were losing and so they calle din America to help. The minute our troops get there, France is all "It's your problem now." So America was left holding the bag. That's why America ever fought in the Vietnam war. The middle east conflict was about the Gulf War and then the 9/11 attack on America. America soldiers are over in Iraq and Afgahn to try and help the people to create a democracy.
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The-Laughing-Rabbit Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
we could have avoided the Vietnam war all together and a soviet influnced Vietnam had we pressured France to let go of the colony back when Ho Chi Mihn approched the american deligation during the signing of the treaty of Versailles in 1918.

Also, the attack on 9/11 was actually hardly relevant to pretty much everything we got invovled with in the middle east. And again, we could have avoided Al-queda all together had we not helped established them in the first place and trained Osam Bin Ladin to fight off the soviets back in the 80's in the Soviet war in Afghanistan.

Beyond that, the recent Arab spring has been far more successful at creating at least some semblence of democracy in the middle east in one year than N.A.T.O. and the U.N. miltary forces have had in the past couple of decades.
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MrAustin390 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013
Yep, because 70 000 dead Syrians really does sound successful when it comes to "creating a semblence of democracy" doesn't it.
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Haze3P0 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The military is like the police for me. One of my friends is in the Navy right now and another fought in Iraq. I support them except for those who abuse their power or kill for fun, like the soldier in Afghanistan who went on a killing spree in a local village.
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013
I would like to challenge the notion that military men are somehow heroic. While risking your life as part of your job description commands respect, you are also a killer- you kill people your nation wants dead.

Far be it from me to disavow the military entirely, but the presence of soldiery should be considered a necessary evil, not a force of undivided, pure good and heroism.
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Graeystone Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013
This coming from someone with an avatar of a character in a manga that deals with child soldiers who are the 'heroes' of said series.
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013
You may not have noticed it, but fiction works differently from reality. Ain't that quaint?

And furthermore, showing appreciation for a series does not mean you agree with every single aspect of it, thank you very much.
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KatWarhound Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
BTW, I noticed you are planning on joining the military! Good job! Just be ready for lots of paperwork! Oh, and the doctors don't know anything you don't tell them! At least, thats the way it was for me. Obviously it will be tough but you seem like you have ample sense to make a go of it. Just remember: Take nothing personally, DETAILS, and HOOAH! ;D You go, dude!
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Balddog4 Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
Thanks, I'm planning to join the special forces for the Coast Guard. The D.O.G unit.
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